IceBus' Choice - Children of Bodom 'Bed of Razors'

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IceBus' Choice - Children of Bodom 'Bed of Razors'

Postby Ice » Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:10 pm

Hey guys. Been wanting to choose some CoB for a while now and finally plucked up the courage to give it a crack. You want the (5) version of the tab from MySongbook.

MP3 - Children of Bodom - 'Bed of Razors'

I really wanted to do Silent Night Bodom Night but it's a bit beyond me :)

Hope you all enjoy this ;)

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Postby Wolf11 » Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:57 pm

Just had a listen to the midi ,sounds pretty cool :)

Only problem I can see is it,s tuned D A F C G D :( wish I had a guitar that likes detuning .

I dont know how easy it is to raise it up in Gp4,but then I suppose you make the fingering very difficult .....I only really discovered the tuning was weird when I started to try to play along :D

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Postby Wolf11 » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:05 pm

I've just worked out how to transpose the tuning in gp4 :) so although the fingering on some stuff is weird,at least it saves detuning :D


[edit] Erm ..ohh the indecison lol...think I might have to learn it the right way then just detune to record or something ..because transposing it makes some of the fingering very difficult

I,ll be interested what you guys decide to do :) ??

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Postby Ice » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:43 pm

Mate, you can change the tuning in GP4, then tell it not to transpose it. Then it'll sound right when you're learning it, and you can detune for the proper one and rip the Midi from the original file. Be sure to do it for bass and keyboard too ;)

MP3 linky now in original post.
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Postby DGV » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:46 pm

Don't really know this song beforehand. And I'm having a hard time finding a mp3. I did listen to the gp file on my crappy headphones and it sounded like a cool song to learn. CoB have interesting riffs and ideas imho, so it'll be a good experience, no doubt.

And yes, Silent Night, Bodom Night is 'rather' challenging. (Don't mean to make that sound like I could actually play it... Fat chance! :D )
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Postby DGV » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:49 pm

Ahh, thanks for the mp3!!!

Incidentally, I'll have to do something as I only have 22 frets... and this goes all the way to 24 on the high e played as per gp file. So the comments came just as handy as the mp3!
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Postby Bigpops » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:54 pm

You don't have an instrumental vesion by any chance :P If there's one thing that does my head in, it's screaming vocals.

Atleast the musics good. Tricky picking pattern too.

Wolf. I'm just going to play this in normal E tuning. If you change the tuning on the guitars in GP3/4, but choose NO when asked if you'd like to trasnspose the track, you can then export the midi, and play along in standard tuning. The tab will still be the same.
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Postby DGV » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:56 pm

I was actually gonna say the very same about the vocals. I've always hated that aspect of Bodom. But the guitar work is usually very nice.
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Postby Ice » Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:00 pm

I don't mind their shouty vocals compared to most, they're a bit less grating. Cradle of Filth on the other hand <shudder>. I also am on 22 frets so I'll just have to play it as a full bend. Joy ;)

This song sounds a lot slower paced than a lot of CoB stuff but it's nicely melodic and still pretty challenging ;)
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Postby Wolf11 » Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:00 pm

DGV wrote:I was actually gonna say the very same about the vocals. I've always hated that aspect of Bodom. But the guitar work is usually very nice.


Yeah I agree...a real shame really as I think with a moree "normal" singer thay would have got far further as they are talented players :)

Thansk for the mp3 (I,ll start now) and the tips on changing it,silly meh :oops: :D ...

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Postby Ice » Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:05 pm

I'm already getting caught out in the 3rd bar lol. Going from the descending lick to the 8,10,12 bit :p
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Postby DGV » Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:06 pm

I agree Wolf. But then on the other hand you have to admire the fact that they haven't sold out and changed their ways. Even if it makes their music worse.

Am I making any sense? :lol:

Peter, you're right. It's nice and melodic. Oh, and I think making that full bend at the 22nd at the required speed will be quite challenging. I just might think of something else. But I guess I'll need to get that far before I need to worry about that.
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Postby Wolf11 » Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:10 pm

Must admit I relaly like the melody in this sort of cross between Iron maiden and a sailors Jig :D

Yeah it,s pretty complicated ..lots of parts :) think this one might take a while again ....Really cool midi ..havnt heard the original yet 32 % so far ..

Just out of interest for you :P I should be gettiong broadband in the next 3 months ..never thought my little village would But someone had put up 30 K to have it converted so the exchange is now at 100 % just got to wait for the activation date....I cant bloody wait ..really excited :D

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Postby DGV » Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:13 pm

Yay for broadband!
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Postby Ice » Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:14 pm

Nice one man :) BTW DGV I can't see any 24th fret stuff in the guitars (other than one note in a slow passage). Just the keyboard bit.

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See it now in that triplet bit...
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Postby Wolf11 » Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:35 pm

Thankyou Peter I,ve finished d/l it :)

I really Like this track ..proves I should listen to more music...I keep smiling listening to the melody :D

I might even have a go at singing this ,as it wont Matter if I go a bit out of key ..:)

I have only relaly heard one of there songs before ..even though I dont like the singing the melody more than makes up for it :) I might get one of there albums when £ improves :)

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Postby Ice » Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:37 pm

I recommend Hatebreeder, the album this is off :) Great guitar album!
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Postby DGV » Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:59 am

IceBus wrote:See it now in that triplet bit...


That's the one. (Lol. Not that it really narrows it down as the whole song is in triplets basically.) Kind of difficult at that speed to get the bend going 19-22-24-22 on the same string at what, 135 bpm? And try to make that 24 a full bend from the 22nd fret and not make it sound like shite - not too easy. At least for me. :D

Wolf: I also thought about singing, since it might be cool to see what this could sound with different vocals. But I've been talking about singing since Fade To Black, so it's pretty uncertain atm. Btw... The guitar work is really really cool in all Children Of Bodom songs I've heard. Great melodies. This is a slow song (by their standards) so it isn't really one of the best ones as far as showing off Alexi Laiho's skills, as he really is quite impressive in other songs. Also, they have a cool way of using their synth. Makes for a cool combination. But those damn vocals... :bg:
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Postby Ice » Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:29 pm

TBH I'm not gonna mind if you do what I'm planning and leave it out and then go back and overdub it ;)

If you want a good example of keyboard/guitar interplay, the end of 'Towards Dead End' is an awesome example. :D
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Postby DGV » Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:21 pm

I know, it's one of my favourites. When you picked this I immediately rememberd how much I like that tune, but unfortunately I don't have it on computer (or cd, as it turns out). And I wasn't able to find it anywhere to download it either, I tried last night. But it's a good song, no doubt.
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Postby DGV » Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:02 pm

I'm liking this one more and more every time I hear it. It's got a lot of cool things going, and there's sort of (don't really know what to call it except) a folkloric feel to some of the stuff that's going on. Still there's also a sort of... coolness to it. :lol: I like it. And I very much enjoy playing it, since it's rather complicated but everything I've tried so far I can play rather cleanly, which is always enjoyable. :D
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Postby Wolf11 » Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:10 pm

I had a listen to 'Towards Dead End' very cool song :) ...Must admit I like this group...

I have also been listening to a couple of Arch Enemy songs today "enemy within" is a wicked song..same sort of singing (er throat clearing ) ...but some wicked riffs .

Problem is I listen to a song and think ..that will be my next gpg choice only to find no gp4 :( ...I can see it will be a diet of Maiden ,Mettalica ,Megadeth etc lol (not that I'm complaining as it tends to be what I listen to a lot :) ) ...thats why it's nice to play new stuff like this one.

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Postby DGV » Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:57 am

I know, that's what it seems like. But...

Megadeth: 3x
Metallica: 2x
Iron Maiden: 3x

And we have had a couple dozen GPGs. So I wouldn't worry about it. :D There really is quite an immense variety of stuff we've picked and I doubt that'll change anytime soon. I think these three may be the ones that people fall back on when they can't think of anything else (though from time to time one does simply get a yearning for some classics, which is why I picked Justice, now that I think about it...), as they're sort of sure picks, but I know I'm looking for variety. That's part of the reason why I was thrilled with this last choice. Something Ive never played, but still like.

TBH, I've already for a long time been thinking about taking Stairway - just to see what your reactions would be. :bg: Wonder why no one has taken it yet? :bg:
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Postby Ice » Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:30 pm

DGV, I was listening to The Song Remains the same yesterday... and thinking the exact same thing ;) I've considered it... but it's big and the solo lasts about 5 mins lol :D
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Postby Wolf11 » Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:37 pm

My problem has always been I tend to listen to a lot of Jazz /fusion..and most of it is in essance one big long solo,+ the fact that most of it isnt tabbed out ....or the chords are near enough impossible...I only dabble in trying to play it as my technique isnt really good enough ...

I've tried a couple of times at learning Stairway ..but I have never relaly got on with plucky open string stuff,but I think if you like a song pick it....as people can always just play what they can manage ...()not meaning I'm about to go and pick a fast Malmsteen number :lol: )


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