Web Design - Handcode or not?

Post by **Kajun** » Mon Nov 25, 2002 12:38 pm

Inevitable, but usually provokes interesting discussion/argument. Myself I prefer handcoding, but notepad is a little inflexible - a decent coder's editor is perfect for timesaving.

Hanohtep · Post by **Hanohtep** » Mon Nov 25, 2002 12:42 pm

I've never actually leared to Web Design properly. But when I was trying to learn I was using Hot Dog Professional which allowed me to hand code but with the benifit of making different sections different colours for easier editing.

heavy-rotation · Post by **heavy-rotation** » Mon Nov 25, 2002 1:21 pm

Handcode, everytime! Sure, you may get cramp from writing it al... I'll get me coat

I use a syntax higlighting program obviously (more for the javascript side of things though)... but I don't trust any WYSIWYG editor. Unfortunately, I'm one of only two people at work who doesn't have Dreamweaver installed, the others still insist on using it

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shtum · Post by **shtum** » Wed Nov 27, 2002 2:29 pm

hand code all the way. tried a wisiwig editor a few times, but had to keep checking what it was outputting in notepad and fixing it

i tend to use textpad these days, makes php code look very nice indeed

Bat · Post by **Bat** » Wed Dec 18, 2002 1:35 pm

I'm only an amateur when it comes to web design, but I always use Dreamweaver. I switch to code view and manually do certain things, but usually I just don't have the patience to code 100%.

DaBeeeenster · Post by **DaBeeeenster** » Wed Dec 18, 2002 4:53 pm

Dreamweaver is the devil. Editplus is all you need!

All the jsp's I write tho are done in IntelliJ. That IDE god damn rocks. It rocks I tell you.

http://validator.w3.org/

is very good for checking your shit for HTML 4 compliance

heavy-rotation · Post by **heavy-rotation** » Wed Dec 18, 2002 4:58 pm

DaBeeeenster wrote:is very good for checking your shit for HTML 4 compliance

Yep - quite handy. If it validates, you know it won't display properly in most browsers

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Post by **Kajun** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:08 pm

I have a problem here, in that:

a) I need to force people not to send attachments willy-nilly to 50-60 people at a time
b) I need to stop them using unstructured Word documents as they're inaccessible
c) Same for PDF plus that PDF sucks
d) thus they should write web pages. But we're officially supported by Frontpage 2000 only!

So.. how do I get people writing committee papers/minutes etc. in HTML without completely codefucking my nicely accessible and slim'n'trim site up?

heavy-rotation · Post by **heavy-rotation** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:09 am

I have the same problem. End solution - we end up htmlising nasty word docs. Or just use PDFs anyway.

Penfold · Post by **Penfold** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:32 pm

What about adding a CMS backend to the site, so that they needn't worry about HTML, if you use something like Wordpress with Textile built in. They just type in their report/minutes and out plops nice cleanly structured webpage which all those 50-60 people can access instead of via email.

Otherwise:http://textism.com/wordcleaner/ ?

Post by **Kajun** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:11 pm

Yeah, it's a thought Penfold. The institution is pursuing an overarching CMS to run everything, which is a scary scenario but might just work.

In the meantime, we've got ASP and ColdFusion!

<slits wrists>

(however, will return to this on Tuesday as we've got a web clinic with some talk about intranet committee servicing utilities...)

heavy-rotation · Post by **heavy-rotation** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:43 pm

nothing much wrong with ASP... as long as you don't use vbscript

Nat · Post by **Nat** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:27 am

Dreamy for the basic layout, then Editplus for everything else (apart from stripping white spaces etc.)

Post by **Kajun** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:28 pm

What's the point in using Dreamweaver just to go back to handcode to undo everything it's done? When all you need these days is a set of divs... no classes here m'lord.

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Web Design - Handcode or not?

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Web Design - Handcode or not?