[Request] Referendum On Quick Reply

Post by **Kajun** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 9:10 am

I wish to propose a referendum on the issue of Quick Reply.

Explanation: Quick Reply is the small box at the bottom of a thread which allows you type quick response and make a reply without needing to load the full reply page, which has all the formatting options. The advantage of this is that it saves on loading time, particularly for modem users, of the full reply page and makes reply quick and easy. The disadvantage is that it discourages use of quoting and other formatting codes, and may potentially encourage use of superflous one-liners which users may not make if the full reply page had to be used.

Since this is such a divided issue, I propose that this referendum should be valid for one month only, after which another request may be made if users feel it to be necessary. This would entail a temporary amendment for this referendum only, to section 9 of the rules, which states "9. Once a referendum request has been made, the same request can not be submitted until a period of three months has elasped." In this case the period would be one month. This does not necessarily mean that a request will be made after one month, merely that the possibility would be available.

Proposed question: Should Quick Reply stay?
Option #1: Yes
Option #2: No

Having made this request, 4 (four) members of the forum must now post in this thread to say they support this request - or if they do not, to post any changes that should take effect before they would be prepared to support the request. Once we have four offers of support, the vote will take place according to the rules of Rules of Referenda.

This request is now offered for consideration. Please post offers of support, requests for amendment, questions and suggestions below.

jonesc2ii · Post by **jonesc2ii** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 9:14 am

I'll support the motion for a referendum, [Edit] the words 'so long as everybody votes for QR to stay' have been removed from this post [/Edit].

Post by **Kajun** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 9:18 am

I'll take that as an unconditional offer of support then, my friend.

Charmaka · Post by **Charmaka** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 10:43 am

Yeah, go on then

"By the powers invested in me by the moderator of this board (what there are of them), I hereby declare my assent and support for this motion and the ideals behind it"

Post by **Kajun** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 10:50 am

Cheeky, but sleek.

MoneyPenny · Post by **MoneyPenny** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 11:00 am

Sorry I don't support this option, I would like the quick reply button to stay, but just in case

I do NOT support this option.

Post by **Kajun** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 11:03 am

Fair enough MP, but note that officially that counts only as a comment - it doesn't not count against any of the votes of support offered so far, and if four offers are brought to the table then we go for the vote. Then each and every person has one vote to declare their opinion.

Hanohtep · Post by **Hanohtep** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:26 pm

I support this request.

I like quick reply but I still think it should go.

kenjafield · Post by **kenjafield** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 2:52 pm

I think my support, which I now give, makes it four...yes?

Post by **Kajun** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 3:00 pm

Yup. I will give a couple of days breathing space to allow discussion of the pros and cons of the issue.

kenjafield · Post by **kenjafield** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 3:04 pm

Quick Reply removal:

pros: spam reduction, longer, more thoughtful posts

Cons: a little more frustration, loss of convenience and time, more page changes which can be slow

Charmaka · Post by **Charmaka** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 5:28 pm

Incidentally and for clarification, I support having a referendum but I'm most likely going to vote in favour of keeping it anyway

Ice · Post by **Ice** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 11:09 pm

I always use quick reply, and I'd like to think my replies aren't (all) spammy. I just think it's a quick way of replying to something, and it allows more advanced users to use formatting without having to load a new page. I also like reviewing the topic by simply scrolling up while replying.

I'll probably support this referendum, but needless to say I really want it to stay.

Hanohtep · Post by **Hanohtep** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:40 am

IceBus wrote:I also like reviewing the topic by simply scrolling up while replying.

You can do this in the Reply window too Ice. You just scroll down a bit and it's there.

Ice · Post by **Ice** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 3:54 pm

I know but I don't like it as well as the normal view <not being deliberately awkward, really>

Charmaka · Post by **Charmaka** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 5:05 pm

I'm with Ice on this one, actually

It's bloody confusing trying to read threads backwards, cos the posts read down but the thread reads up, if you see what I mean

Ice · Post by **Ice** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 6:04 pm

Yay. Welcome back again btw Charmaka

MoneyPenny · Post by **MoneyPenny** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 6:48 pm

I'm with Ice and Charmaka on this one.

Hanohtep · Post by **Hanohtep** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 7:12 pm

Well, we'll see what happens when it goes to the vote. As I've said before I like Quick Reply but I feel that it should go.

punky_munky · Post by **punky_munky** » Sun Sep 15, 2002 10:37 am

well nobodies convinced me against using quick reply so I shall continue to use it.

Charmaka · Post by **Charmaka** » Sun Sep 15, 2002 1:28 pm

Then technically you ought to read teh rest of this forum and find out

MoneyPenny · Post by **MoneyPenny** » Sun Sep 15, 2002 2:20 pm

Finn wrote:ok I have worked out that a referendum is basically a vote (yes?)
a motion is simply something that has been put forward to vote on?

(sorry for putting this in this thread, dunno where else I would ask this?)

<claps>

Who is a clever chap then :p